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If you are making 20 or more an hour and staying busy - isn't this good pay???
ministerofmassage wrote:I work in a spa outside Chicago and I know that spa pay scales here are low and dropping since we have over 5 massage schools and every junior college is getting a massage program. These schools are grinding out new therapists every few months and so it is an employer's market. Some will offer hourly plus benefits ($10-12 hr) while the spas owned by large corporations or hotels start at 33% up to 45%. They tell you when you are hired that your commission is higher but then you are charged a product usage fee or overhead fee of 10% or more. I started 10 years ago here in the fitness industry making 60% but remember 60% of no business is 0. After 3 years of back breaking work we had 3 fulltime MT's, added a 2nd treatment room and then were slowly fired for cheaper help. Since then I have built business for spa owners only to have to pay for my own business cards, uniforms (even though this is against the law in IL) wash loads of laundry and do maintenence like a cleaning woman for 40% or hourly. Believe me no one profits at a salon except an owner! The intangibles are a nice work environment and discounted salon services, plus they can offer more services to your clients than you can by yourself. I would like to know if others feel like spa work exploits massage therapists. I am planning to work for myself soon and create my own business if I have to work this hard for others. ???
Convoluted wrote:In addition to that bit of news I found out that all employees are expected to work in occassional charity events or promotional events for "free".
maestra wrote:Convoluted wrote:In addition to that bit of news I found out that all employees are expected to work in occassional charity events or promotional events for "free".
They can expect all they want, but I don't believe they can require you to work for a "Charity event" for free. If you want to Donate your time/skills to a charity it should be Your choice of charity, and not the pet project of your employer. What if it was a charity that you did not feel particularly charitable towards? Is it really a "gift" if your employer demands it of you?
maestra wrote:They can expect all they want, but I don't believe they can require you to work for a "Charity event" for free. If you want to Donate your time/skills to a charity it should be Your choice of charity, and not the pet project of your employer. What if it was a charity that you did not feel particularly charitable towards? Is it really a "gift" if your employer demands it of you?
Convoluted wrote:I have to remember while I am "b####ing" and moaning about this, I did agree to it, so I better suck it up for now. Hopefully other postive things about this new job will outweigh the things that irk me.
Snackdaddy wrote: You people are freakin' me out. I am horribly underpaid.
Snackdaddy wrote: My country club gig pays great... 70% payout of $90 = $63/hour, plus tips. And tips there are righteous. Their supplies, linens, laundry, phone jockeys, everything. Massages done in-home on the property pay out 90% of $115 = $103.50, plus tips. For those, we use all our own personal stuff..
healingtime wrote:Would anybody here take 35% at a new, VERY small spa that is independently owned with very little current clientele.
uM, hmmm, I'm feeling very green, and I don't mean one with lots of money, lol.
tiger snacks wrote:I'm located in a Plastic Surgery group so my spa has a more Medical personality.
Whenever a therapist hints at being unfairly paid (on avg. my rmt's get paid $45 per hr) I am always quick to show the therapist financials. I just think therapists can be naive to all to the costs that go into a business.
At times, we have played the "money game" with our staff. Take the cost of an average treatment, say $100, and turn it into $1 bills and hand it to the first staff member.
Then you work your way through the P&L, starting with things they understand -- the variable costs associated with each treatment
CC processing - minus $2 - have them take the money out, put it in a hat or box and pass the remaining stack to the next person.
Laundry - minus $2
Products for treatments - minus $2
Discounts/Promotions - minus $5
For your fixed costs -- Rent, utlities, advertising -- take last months total for each line item and show them the math of getting to a per treatment figure
Rent -- $3,000. Divided by 30 days (fewer if you close sundays) = $300 per day. Divided by your average # of treatments per day this week (to make it current and real) = minus $12
Before long, the stack is mighty thin. Then you "pay" your therapist (which can be tricky to calculate if you pay something other than straight fee or striaght %), BUT MAKE SURE ONE PERSON HANGS ON TO THIS AMOUNT INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT IN THE BOX - then any employment taxes, benefits costs, etc
When you are done, you have what the owner keeps from each appointment. Compare that to the stack the therapist is holding for pay.
Question: for ICs, when your contracted location runs specials or accepts things like Spa Wish/SpaFinder/other discounted gift cards, do you have to share the discount?
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