Wanted Advanced Muscle Reconditioning or NeuroSoma therapist

[delpha]

Hi,

As a chronic low back pain sufferer, I've done a lot of research on the connection between back pain and disc problems - but I still don't see the connection.

I found this guy Brian Bronk on YouTube and the internet...I like his ideas and I know they come from this guy named Thomas Griner (who invented the 'Bio-pulser' and his massage technique he calls NeuroSoma).

However, I can't find a therapist for any of these techniques in Portland Oregon.

Can someone help me?
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[maestra]

While I do know of some Massage Therapists in the Portland Oregon area, I do not know of anyone who is trained in AMR.

I suggest you contact Dr. Bronk himself to find someone who has received training from him or bought his book (available via amazon.com).

[JasonE]

Back pain is rarely a direct result of "disc problems" - and many people with "disc problems" never have back pain. Though a bulged/herniated disc CAN affect spinal nerves, it takes an MRI to know if this is truly the problem at hand.

What we do know for certain is that the brain is receiving certain information, and then (for whatever reason) the brain is interpreting that information as painful. The greater the CNS arousal, the more likely you are to experience pain. If the CNS arousal can be downregulated, you are likely to experience less (if any) pain. There are many ways this may potentially be achieved. Massage/bodywork is a great option.

A recent metastudy of existing research concluded that, for nonspecific low back pain, massage is more effective at pain reduction than acupuncture, physical therapy, exercise, and a number of other alternative treatments. I don't recall if chiropractic was mentioned in the study.

Better news: A variety of styles of massage/bodywork were included in the research, and all provided superior results... though it was noted that more experienced/qualified MTs provided better results.

So, while the particular method(s) you are asking about may not be available to you at this time, you may well find relief from another type of massage therapist in your area.

[pueppi]

We have some well trained therapists on the board from Oregon, even if not in the modality you are searching for.

Possibly Breathe Bodywork can help you.

[sambking]

I live in NJ and had an excruciatingly painful left hip problem that started at the end of Feb 2010. You can read my story at: http://www[dot]musclespasms[dot]wordpress[dot]com
Neurosoma (http://www[dot]neurosoma[dot]com) neuro-musclular massage is amazing. I was lucky in that there is a doctor in NYC who practices neurosoma massage and is very good at it (Dr. Joe Bonavoglia).

Too bad that you are in Portland. There are no neurosoma practitioners there at the moment. If you can get to LA you can have Thomas Griner himself work on you. He is VERY expensive but he is your best bet. Go to the neurosoma website and see the list (very few practice neurosoma) of neurosoma practitioners. There are a few others in the LA area that know the technique. Thomas Griner has a book that explains the basics of the technique. Get the book and see if you can find a massage therapist in your area that will try the technique out on you. Brian Bronk's book can help as well. I have spoken to Brian. He is a nice guy who studied with Griner twenty years ago and has been practicing his own form of Griner's technique. Search for both on the net and read as much as you can about each method.

I don't know what I would have done if I had not found neurosoma. My pain was so acute that I couldn't drive or sit in a chair for three months without experiencing unbearable pain.

Good luck! I hope that you can find someone who will give it a try.

Sam

[JasonE]

Does OP "Delpha" = "sambking" ?