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holley wrote:I'm disappointed single payer was not passed....it's a first, imperfect step.
holley wrote:We'll soon have a decision by the court @ The Affordable Health Care Act....
holley wrote:On the House vote to repeal the Affordable Health Care Act:
"Mitt Romney said the White House wasn’t sleeping well last night.
You know who else wasn’t sleeping well?
The mother with a child who has leukemia.
holley wrote:The recent college grad who’s unemployed and thinking about making a doctor’s appointment.
holley wrote:The grandfather who isn’t sure if he’ll be able to afford the prescription medication he needs.
holley wrote: The middle-class family who isn’t sure if they’ll be able to keep their home if their medical bills broach the lifetime cap “Obamacare” eliminated..
holley wrote:What would Romney and his bravado do for each of them?
And how much of that is driven by high-cost procedures like MRI, which many countries with Socialized medicine deny so many of their citizens. The US has 207 CT scans per 1,000 patients compared to Canada's 138, and far ahead of most other countries. http://www.canhealth.com/News927.html So you can blame high-expenditures on preventative medicine driven by CYA (which Obama refused to address by not even discussing tort reform) or you can attribute this higher cost to more patients being offered life saving treatments. Obama care addresses neither.holley wrote:The following information ranking the United States by category against the OECD's other members comes from the November publication "Health at a Glance 2011 - OECD Indicators."
* 1st in Spending - Annual healthcare spending totals $2.6 trillion, equal to 17.9 percent of U.S. annual gross domestic product, or $8,402 for every man, woman and child.
Obesity is most prevelanet among the poor who, who in turn are most likely on government assistance. http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/07/ ... d-poverty/holley wrote:* 1st in Obesity - More than one-third of American adults are obese, up from 15 percent in 1980.
Really? The Germans and Swiss are more precise/efficient than anyone else on the planet? Big shock! By all means, turn 15% of our economy upside down so we can be #1 -- but if you think putting the gov't in charge of something in which we rank 3rd will result in a higher ranking, you are out of your mind.holley wrote:* 3rd out of nine in Waiting Time for Specialists - Out of nine countries from Europe, North America and Australia and New Zealand, the United States has the third shortest waiting time for specialist appointments at 20 weeks; Germany and Switzerland had shorter waiting periods.
you expect our health care system to PREVENT strokes? Should it pick lottery numbers to?holley wrote:* 4th in Preventing Death from Stroke - The United States ranks behind Israel, Switzerland and France with 32 stroke-related deaths per 100,000 people.
dittoholley wrote:* 7th in Cancer Incidence - Cancer afflicts more than 300 people per 100,000 in the United States, compared with an OECD average of 261 per 100,000.
funny, the statistic I found says the US has better cancer Survivability rates than Canada or Europe. http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/second ... nd-canada/holley wrote:* 9th in Preventing Death from Cancer - At 185 deaths per 100,000, the United States is well above an OECD average of 208 per 100,000.
[/quote][/quote]holley wrote:* 31st out of 40 in Infant Mortality - 6.5 babies die per thousand live births in the United States, placing the country behind Poland and the Slovak Republic and below an OECD average performance of 4.4 per thousand live births. [/quote} more misleading crap. he primary driver of US infant mortality is the high number of premature babies who are born in the US. "Of babies born alive, 90% survived to their first birthday" -- so a 30% mortality rate on premees vs. .65% for the general population. 1 in 8 babies in the US is premature -- so if 10% of 1/8 die in the first year, that means 90% of the infant mortality rate is driven by preemies -- which are not even counted as births in other countries.
* 31st in Preventing Premature Death - The number of years lost in the United States to premature death is surpassed only by Hungary, Mexico and Russia. The main causes are accidents, violence, cancer and circulatory disease.
The OECD was established in Europe after World War Two to promote peace through cooperation and reconstruction. Its members are Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Chile, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovak Republic, Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, the United Kingdom and the United States.
(Compiled by David Morgan; Editing by Howard Goller and Will Dunham)
holley wrote:Conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh said on his radio show that he will eventually leave the country if the health care bill passes and its provisions are implemented.
moogie wrote:I had heard that he said Costa Rica but I don't know if that's true or not. Of course Costa Rica has universal healthcare.
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