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Suggestion: Private members section.

Postby Breathe on Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:37 am

I would like to suggest there be one section of the forum that is private. After you reach a certain post count, (or perhaps being referred by a known poster, PM'ing proof of being a legit therapist to a trusted mod, or ? ) you have access to this section.

Reason I bring this up now... I just want to say that it has nothing to do with what is going on around here right now. I have a client that received some terrible information this week, and I need to talk about it, but I don't feel comfortable doing so on a public area of the board.

The one downside of a private forum is that a few new posters will sometime artificially inflate their count by posting a bunch of one-word or smiley posts, so they can get in. Maybe there's another practical way to limit member access? I don't know. Not thinking too clearly this morning. It's shocking how attached we get to the long-term regulars, isn't it?

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Postby maestra on Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:27 am

Sorta miss having a chat feature, huh?
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Postby AnastasiaB on Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:16 am

That sounds like a nice idea - a safe place for discussion of delicate issues.....

Thanks for coming up with it Stacey.
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Postby Breathe on Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:33 am

Yeah, chat would be nice too, but I know how difficult the programming is for a good one, plus they are an expensive add-on.

I'm better now, talked with my biz partner and blew off a little stress. Still think a private section would be nice.
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Postby superspagirl on Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:20 pm

one board I am on has a trading post area where you can buy, sell, or trade different things. Anyway, they have post count and length of time as a registered memebr count before you can get in and post or even view it. Could it be something like that here? Where after say 6 months and X amount of posts you can enter the private area.
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Postby Shannon on Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:32 pm

I am for it as well. The only problem I fore see is clients getting to that X post and/or length of time.

From what I am gathering Breathe is saying itwould be for MT's only. Reason I say that is the mention of an instance with a client of hers and didn't want it out in the open. I am assuming she would mean clients as well.
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Postby makingachange on Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:17 pm

i can see where this could be a beneficial and "safe" place. not that BWOL isn't safe, but like you said, it is public.

maybe the best way would be for it to be invitation-only? that seems to me (and i don't know much about online communities) to be the only way that it could be totally regulated. a moderator would have to let you in.

but that would be a great deal more work for the moderators..

i'm interested to see how this develops. great idea - and i hope you're finding some peace with the information you received today.

i also had a situation earlier this month, stacey, that i wanted so desperately to post about. but i knew it was too public of a place, and i just didn't feel safe doing it. a private location would be a good thing.

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Postby Shannon on Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:29 pm

I am for the invitation only. When it/if its started Admin lets people in by invite only. Once say 5-10 members are in place then maybe a vote to let someone in? Everyone would get a chance to say yes or no and why either way, majority rules. :?: :?:
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Postby Intuitouch on Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:20 pm

Setting up a private forum is fairly easy to do actually. Creating a usergroup that allows only approved members to post and view it is also easy.

The hard part is setting the parameters to allow viewing and posting.

I am not opposed to an MT section only.

I'm curious about the following:

Would students qualify?

How would one verify that the poster is truly an MT?

Will it be limited to discussing only certain topics so much of what gets discussed publically would not get posted privately?
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Postby Shannon on Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:27 pm

I would say in the beginning no to students. Maybe down the road yes but at first see how it goes.
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Postby seekingequanimity on Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:33 pm

Intuitouch wrote:
How would one verify that the poster is truly an MT?


I think it's a good idea, but that ^ was the first thing that popped into my head.

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Postby StressSolutions on Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:47 pm

Shannon wrote:I would say in the beginning no to students. Maybe down the road yes but at first see how it goes.


We've got students as moderators...
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Postby palpable on Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:32 pm

StressSolutions wrote:
Shannon wrote:I would say in the beginning no to students. Maybe down the road yes but at first see how it goes.


We've got students as moderators...


Not to mention that students see clients on a regular basis, too, either in clinics or in practice sessions- and lots of funky things can happen there, too.

While I certianly understand not wanting to post some things in public, my concern with a private area would be that a lot of valuable info might get "hidden" from the general view.
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Postby BJB-LMP on Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:31 pm

I think a vote of those already "in" is unnecessary - just have an admin allow access, plus x amount of time on the board & x # of posts (doesn't have to be many - 40 or 50?). I've been an MT a long time and wouldn't have a problem w/students coming in, once they've started their program.

I'm also not too worried about verifying that someone is really an MT. If people are really trying that hard to impersonate an MT, we've got trouble anyway, right?

It's true that some info might only be found in the private area, but -- if all board-active MTs and students who have some longevity here can access it, then that shouldn't be a problem. I've seen private areas work really well on message boards. I'm for it.
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Postby BackrubMonster on Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:13 pm

Another forum that I frequent does have a restricted area that is only accessible with a 200-post count - non-forum-subject-matter-chatterbox, a buy/sell/trade section (it's not public due to spammers), etc. It is specified in Board Rules (which are publicly accessible) that any apparent purposeful 'inflation' of post counts in order to get to the restricted area is not allowed; however, this as well as a vote-in process could be seen as fairly subjective if judged by mods only. I haven't spoken up in recent mod-power-issue threads because one way or another, someone has already posted my pov; I'm just wondering if a subjective slant on any restricted access could cause more problems?

I'd back the post-count + time-since-joining matrix as a way of setting things. The post-count measure would ensure the poster's content relevance/non-troll-ness as a whole (and maybe give a good idea of the poster's maturity and capability to handle sensitive matters in the private section) and the time-since-joining measure would discourage post-count inflation..

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might be easier than tracking license/cert #s, too (plus I'm technically an unlicensable student for one more month, have mercy! lol. I would like to be part of the private forum not because I'm nosy, but because I'm sincerely interested in knowing what kinds of things come up with clients and how they are dealt with - I know that I will inevitably have some emotional ties to my clients, as my caring and wanting people to feel better is what got me here in the first place.)
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Postby makingachange on Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:15 am

curious, is there a way to keep clients in the clients/hobbyist section only? i've not understood why they have access to the MT side anyway.

i've been thinking about this again. wondering how the mods are coming with the suggestion (as if you don't have enough on your plates, sorry!)

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Postby Masthera on Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:23 am

livingwell wrote:curious, is there a way to keep clients in the clients/hobbyist section only? i've not understood why they have access to the MT side anyway.

i've been thinking about this again. wondering how the mods are coming with the suggestion (as if you don't have enough on your plates, sorry!)

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Amanda, no there is no way to keep the clients in the client section. You would have to make all registered members unable to go to the other sections of the board. There isn't a way to separate the clients out of that group. At least not to my knowledge. If I am incorrect, please correct me.

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Postby melb on Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:04 pm

Special areas are all well and good and would not have to be publicised if it was invite only - if you are logged in and able to access the area it is one of the areas you see, if you are logged in and not allowed to access the area, you don't see it, you don't know what you are missing.

The only thing would be to remind people that could get into some special area not to talk about it outside the special area (upset the people that couldn't access it). Which sounds easy enough in theory, until someone gets their nose out of place and runs all over the rest of the board carrying on about "there is an area you don't know about", which is exactly what happened with the moderators section of the board, those mere mortals that have never been moderators didn't know about the moderators section, but people that were moderators at one point felt they should alert everyone to the fact there was a special area, where people could discuss things that non-moderators weren't allowed to see, and my goodness, didn't that upset some people?? And yes, that was moderators and mere mortals, but special area and mere mortals would be the same us/them when it came out. I am sure a good number of people let into the special area would be mods, and it would end up being a defacto mod section (even though the topics wouldn't be mod related) adding even more fuel to the us/them.
Up until a month or so ago, I would've said, 'yeah, we're all grown ups and could be trusted', but after recent events????????
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Postby dodab on Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:42 am

melb wrote: I am sure a good number of people let into the special area would be mods, and it would end up being a defacto mod section (even though the topics wouldn't be mod related) adding even more fuel to the us/them.
Up until a month or so ago, I would've said, 'yeah, we're all grown ups and could be trusted', but after recent events????????


I would have to agree here. Under certain circumstances (such as the mod responsiblities) there should be a place where discussion of problematic issuses needs to be discussed. However, exclussion of others "just because" isn't right no matter how you cut it.
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Postby BJB-LMP on Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:17 pm

Hey, did this idea ever come to fruition? Some things have been happening lately in my practice that I'd just feel better discussing a little more "privately," and it reminded me that we had been discussing this last summer. Now that all that furor is old news, what did we decide?
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Postby Pandoras_Gift on Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:36 pm

It was in discussion, I don't even know why it didn't happen, I think there was just too much going on at that time. Even so, it will again be discussed, I don't see a problem, I just have to figure out the particulars... Intuitouch posted positively about it, but with questions... so we will figure it out...
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Postby fudja / aka Greatlakes on Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:07 pm

What about a live chat room?? You could invite certain people, and they could chat live. The chat need not be saved like a message board does.
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Postby Shannon on Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:38 pm

That was discussed to at one point and I thought it was suppose to happen before the switch over but not quite sure what happened with that either.
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Postby IntuitiveHealers on Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:01 pm

I think a private area sounds great but here's a question that crossed my mind in addition to those already mentioned: I am a "Professional Therapist" who lurks a lot and posts only occasionally...Where would people like me fit in?
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Postby boofdorf on Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:35 am

IntuitiveHealers wrote: I am a "Professional Therapist" who lurks a lot and posts only occasionally...Where would people like me fit in?


This should be a concern if we do a "post count" membership. My other concern (directed more to the folks above that mentioned only being able to access an area after reaching a minimum post count) is does this end up motivating some folks to make a bunch of "cheap" posts just to get their #'s up? ("nice post, dude", "I agree", "Happy Whip Cream Day, Sally!", "Hello, everyone", etc.)
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