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Ashiatsu Bars

Post by rezod » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:40 am

Hi all!

Anyone know of anywhere I can find a set of Ashiatsu bars? I know that Earthlite makes a portable set that can be attached to one of their tables but I have a Stronglite table that I don't want to get rid of. Nor do I want to spend the money for a new table. I've searched and searched and no luck so far. All help is appreciated! Thanks in advance!

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Post by cicerone » Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:33 pm

I PM'd stonegirl to make sure she sees this thread -- she is our resident Ashiatsu instructor and might be able to help you.
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Post by pueppi » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:05 pm

Hi... this is from another thread a while back... it has some portable ashi bar links in it: Client looking for help


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Unfortunately I don't know how that would be possible. Ashiatsu is a kind of massage done with the feet, and part of the setup is bars installed on the treatment-room ceiling (therapist stabilises himself/herself using them).
I don't know of anyone but there are Ashiatsu bars that are portable so someone may be in your area that does it on an on site basis.
Yep. to both.

You could also consider paying for a set of portable Ashiatsu bars if the therapist is willing to come to your home and they don't have them (expensive chioce, but if it works for you... ). Here are a few links to portable bars:
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Post by stonegirl » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:50 pm

Hi Rottie,

Pueppi is correct - permanent bars can be installed in the ceiling, or you can purchase portable bars.
But I should point out that the intended use of this Portable Bar System was designed for therapists who have successfully completed the Ashiatsu Oriental Bar Therapy® certification course.

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Post by rezod » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:15 pm

Stonegirl,

I have every intention of taking and completing the course. I simply wanted to find out what my total cost would be before diving into this education. I really apprecitate the help in finding the info.

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Post by rezod » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:39 pm

Cicerone and Pueppi,

Thanks for the input on this one as well!

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Post by stonegirl » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:21 am

portables aren't required, tho they are nice to have. Permanent bars are much less expensive and are great for daily use if you're in a location where you can install them.
Complete instructions for bar installation are covered during the course. The average price range for one set of bars in individual treatment rooms can range from $75 to $500 depending on materials and ceiling.

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Post by LadyNiko » Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:19 am

And, to back up what Stonegirl said about the permanent bars vs. the portable - the portable patented bar kit will run you about $1000 minimum and I don't remember if that covers shipping or not.

(A gal I work with bought the portable bars and mentioned that the shipping was a killer.)

The permanent bars are so much easier to handle if you're in a spot where you don't have to take down your table at the end of the day. :)
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Post by rezod » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:38 pm

Yeah, that's one of the reasons that I posted.

I found the portable set online for the $1000 but read that it wouldn't be insured unless used with the Earthlite table. I have a Stronglite and am constantly jumping on it with my clients. My table has served me well for the last five years and shows no signs of needing replaced so I couldn't justify buying another table for an additional $500. Not to mention that I didn't want to take up the additional space in my office if I could avoid doing so.

I guess I should have clarified in my original post. :smt053

I very much want to take the training and add this modality to my "menu" but doing so for me requires a little education, as I think anyone should.

Knowing what I know now, I am hoping to be able to go to Cincinatti for the August training session.

I'm soooo glad that I finally found this site :grin: after being in the field for so long. I'm further hoping to extend my career by being able to use this technique. I love what I do! And as challenging as it may be, I love working for myself!

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Post by LadyNiko » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:53 pm

RottieMom wrote:Yeah, that's one of the reasons that I posted.

I found the portable set online for the $1000 but read that it wouldn't be insured unless used with the Earthlite table.
What? That's crazy. As it is, the slats that actually connect to coworker's table look like they are nothing more than like poorly cut pieces of plywood. (I have studied them in detail, since I have helped her set up and take down numerous weeks at this apartment complex we do outcalls at.)

I really, really, really want to go out to Stonegirl's class in AZ next month, but I sort of don't think it's going to work for the timing would put me out of town 2 weekends in a row right as one of my jobs is going into its Insane Season. (I work in the office of a landscaping/nursery firm and spring means everyone wants their landscaping projects done now. )
RottieMom wrote:I'm soooo glad that I finally found this site after being in the field for so long. I'm further hoping to extend my career by being able to use this technique. I love what I do! And as challenging as it may be, I love working for myself!
Well, welcome aboard! I knew about this long before I decided to become an MT - a certain admin (she knows who she is) kinda dragged me over here first. :lol:

I have been bouncing around trying to work with various people over the last year and it's been crazy. I am so glad as well to mostly work for myself. (Now I just need more clients! :P)
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Post by stonegirl » Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:40 pm

My experience has been that the portable bars are high quality. They are made of pine and maple, and are professionally manufactured.

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Post by rezod » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:40 pm

Lady,

Hang in there! I was working two jobs while trying to get my practice going. About two years into it, I was self supporting.

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Post by KneadedMassage » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:05 pm

I don't think it's required to have a new table to go with the portable bars. You can use a regular table just fine. I would highly recommend installing permanent bars though. There are so many different ways this can be done. My first Ashiatsu session was with a woman who used the portable bar system as her permanent set-up. They squeaked a bit, for one thing. And, she had to dedicate that room only to Ashiatsu treatments, as it was very difficult to move around the table to do other modalities when the bars are up.

I do hope you're able to take the Ashiatsu course. It's a fabulous modality!!! I LOVE it! Good luck to you!!!

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Post by rezod » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:32 pm

Hi Kneaded!

While it doesn't say that a new table is required with the portable bars, it does mention that Health and Bodywork will not be held liable if used with any other table.

Follow the link to "Deep Feet" in Peuppi's post above and scroll to the bottom of the page to read the warning.

Thanks for the well wishes and advice! I am going to be there in August! As anyone who knows me would tell you, when my mind is set, it will become.

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Post by pueppi » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:51 pm

Also located this for anyone interested: http://www.my2feet.com/products.php?prodtype=ash

Ashiatsu Free-Standing Portable Bars Schematics

Don't have a proper support structure or want to do demonstrations? Ashiatsu Free-Standing Portable Bar Schematics are now available. They contain a list of the supplies needed. Wood with a high psi is used and the prices for this vary from place to place. After built and assembled via the enclosed instructions,the unit will weigh appox. 120 lbs and will measure 8 ft high by 6 ft wide by 10 ft long. This is not a course in carpentry and you will need a person who has the proper skills to build them. This unit will fit your exiting tables with legs or hydrolics. When you purchase the schematics you agree to the copright law that protects them and for personal use only. These schematics are available for half price when purchased with the Ashiatsu Bar Home Study or after you have taken a live class from Barefoot Masters. Click on the Home Study that has this offer or call or e-mail us if you have already taken the class from Barefoot Masters. 239-352-8200 or [email protected]. $199.99
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Post by stonegirl » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:58 pm

While it doesn't say that a new table is required with the portable bars, it does mention that Health and Bodywork will not be held liable if used with any other table.
I think that just means that you can't sue the company who sold you the bars, not that it won't be covered under insurance. That would be something you would want to make sure is included in your liability insurance.

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Post by rezod » Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:18 pm

Stonegirl,

Duh! Why didn't I think in that direction?

Peuppi!

Thanks sooooooo much for this link!!!! There will be a course in my hometown in May! Yes!

Now, to convince my husband that's it's a good idea to spend the money on this one....

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Re: Ashiatsu Bars

Post by Vita » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:44 pm

I'm resurrecting this post in hope to get some info and or feedback...

I have been wanting to take Ashiatsu for years, but the landlord (and other practicing MT) of my current space won't allow permanent bars to be installed. I have been looking at the portable bars, but quite frankly, I'm not sure if they are easy to disassemble or work around. Does anyone use the portable bars in their current practice and still use the room for other modalities with success?

I do a lot of Active Isolated Stretching in sessions and at least one Lomi Lomi session a day - which requires me to constantly move around the table. So I'm not sure if portable bars would work. I figure it's not worth taking the class if I have no place to practice or eventually add to my menu, but that would make my heart sad.
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Post by stonegirl » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:20 am

Vita - I think they would be very difficult to work around for a Lomi session. They do break down and set up pretty easily (about 20 minutes once you're practiced at it). I think it would be diffucult to break down or setup in between clients during the day, but if you weren't crunched for time - it wouldn't be too bad.
There are also some options for installing permanent bars that don't involve going into the ceiling... maybe that would be something your landlord would consider? In class, several different options are presented for how to install your bars.

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Post by pueppi » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:04 am

stonegirl wrote:There are also some options for installing permanent bars that don't involve going into the ceiling... maybe that would be something your landlord would consider?
Would you ind giving a little more info as to what type of installation this would be and what it would look like?
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Post by Vita » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:43 am

Thank you for taking the time to address my question, stonegirl!

I too am curious how this would work. She doesn't want any screws or nails or anything going into the ceiling (or walls for that matter although with the promise of patching them up later I got permission to hang a shelf and a picture). So if you could elaborate or perhaps send me to a website that explains that option (I don't need schematics as I'm just attempting to figure out if I should take the class first :-) ), I would sincerely appreciate it!
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Post by stonegirl » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:14 am

This option would involve going into the walls, so if she doesn't want anything in the walls as well as the ceiling, then that is a problem! But if you did get permission to hang a shelf and picture - maybe you can talk her into it. It would simply require some patching up afterward as with the shelf, etc.

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Post by pueppi » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:53 am

Just some general info that may be helpful:

This therapist shows how the bard are installed on a wall. Personally I think one would want better woodwork in their office, but to each their own. Note: He's a bit sales pitchy for his course he teaches and you have to put up with a bit too much of an "ooey-gooey" personality, but it should give you an idea as to how to patch things once you leave the office, if you decide to go this route. You can see the instructions in the second video entitled "Watch the following video and learn how to build your own Ashiatsu massage bars!": http://www.vitalitymassage.net/ashiatsubarefoot.html


Here is a DVD on installing bars:
from Michelle Mace's site: http://my2feet.com/ashiatsu/products/ (scroll down about half-way)
Ashiatsu Bar Installation Information Packet - $19.99

Want to get your bars up before you take the class? This contains instructions and a list of supplies needed for installing stationary bars in rooms with or without ceiling supports. It includes diagrams and pictures that a carpenter should understand. (No actual bars are being sent.)There are 5 options to choose from: one for a drop ceiling, one for a ceiling with trusses, three for rooms with no ceiling supports but have walls to support the structures. Please note that cost of supplies for installing the bars can range from $100 to $250.00 Also: these same installations are included free with class or home study and no discount can be applied after purchase.

Here is a YouTube of the "elflike" Jenny, showing us how to set up portable bars in less than 10 mins. :)
"Ashiatsu portable bar setup" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t93E30jAZqY

This thread may have some useful links within it for a general cross reference:
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Re: Ashiatsu Bars

Post by Vita » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:15 pm

I really appreciate the time ya'll took to help me. I'm going to put together the information and present it to the therapist. I'm not holding much hope because she has wallpaper murals on the wall and putting up the bars on the wall would destroy those. At this time, leaving my office isn't an option. It looks like perhaps I'll have to continue to dream for a bit. But when the time comes.... I'll jump right back on this info! :D
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Re: Ashiatsu Bars

Post by pueppi » Fri May 18, 2018 2:45 pm

1) Update on the Ruthie Hardee portable bars link: http://www.deepfeet.com/product/portable-bar/

2) Update on Michelle Mace schematics to build the portable bars ($30): https://thebarefootmasters.com/product/ ... tions-diy/

3) Link to an Ashiatsu Cage: http://www.essentialhm.com/massage-ther ... iatsu-cage


4) Another company that offers portable ashiatsu bars (from Southwest Ashiatsu Massage) -
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And, some general cross-links:
Ashiatsu Oriental Bar Therapy
Ahh...Shiatsu Massage Therapy
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