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Local Township regs

Post by squash_blsm » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:06 pm

I am probably moving my biz to a township that has a "massage ordinance".

The ordinance itself was about 8 pages long.
They use the term "massagist" instead of massage therapist.
And most of the language pertains to prostitution not massage!
So I figured this was an old ordinance that just hadn't been updated in 20 years.
But I found out it is just over a year old!

Looks like I am going to have to jump thru some hoops!
I am waiting to hear back, but it looks like I have to pay for an occupancy permit , a massage establishment permit, PLUS a massagist permit, plus I need to submit a letter from a physician saying that I am free from "communicable diseases", plus list all the places that I have lived and worked for the past 10 years.
The secretary did not have the forms and said I had to talk to the head of the town permit dept in person, who was not in at the time. Hopefully I will get in to see him tomorrow or friday (and can get a total on the fees - which look like about $200-$300 at the minimum)

This is in addition to the cost of my state license, insurance, police background check, required ceu's and cpr cert that I have already paid for.

jeeeesh! :roll:
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Re: Local Township regs

Post by JasonE » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:15 pm

squash_blsm wrote:I am probably moving my biz to a township that has a "massage ordinance".

The ordinance itself was about 8 pages long.
They use the term "massagist" instead of massage therapist.
And most of the language pertains to prostitution not massage!
So I figured this was an old ordinance that just hadn't been updated in 20 years.
But I found out it is just over a year old!

Looks like I am going to have to jump thru some hoops!
I am waiting to hear back, but it looks like I have to pay for an occupancy permit , a massage establishment permit, PLUS a massagist permit, plus I need to submit a letter from a physician saying that I am free from "communicable diseases", plus list all the places that I have lived and worked for the past 10 years.
The secretary did not have the forms and said I had to talk to the head of the town permit dept in person, who was not in at the time. Hopefully I will get in to see him tomorrow or friday (and can get a total on the fees - which look like about $200-$300 at the minimum)

This is in addition to the cost of my state license, insurance, police background check, required ceu's and cpr cert that I have already paid for.

jeeeesh! :roll:
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Re: Local Township regs

Post by squash_blsm » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:21 am

yes, it does make me shake my head.
It's a shame that this got passed - there is a massage school located in this town.
The owners have worked diligently for years in getting state licensing passed.
So this local ordinance, passed AFTER state licensing, seems misguided at best.
I am NOT going to call myself a "massagist" even though it is a legitimate word.
It's bad enough that I will have to display my "massagist" permit!

Oh - and ordinance states that buttocks may not be exposed or touched at all in any manner (i gotta stop reading this...it's making me crazy).
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Re: Local Township regs

Post by JasonE » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:35 pm

squash_blsm wrote:yes, it does make me shake my head.
It's a shame that this got passed - there is a massage school located in this town.
The owners have worked diligently for years in getting state licensing passed.
So this local ordinance, passed AFTER state licensing, seems misguided at best.
I am NOT going to call myself a "massagist" even though it is a legitimate word.
It's bad enough that I will have to display my "massagist" permit!

Oh - and ordinance states that buttocks may not be exposed or touched at all in any manner (i gotta stop reading this...it's making me crazy).
If you have a state massage license, it may exempt you from the local ordinances. Check your state law and with your state massage board for guidance. It can't exempt you from zoning requirements, but otherwise you might be able to ignore large portions of the local ordinance. Before deciding on your course of action, investigate carefully and get some legal counsel if you can.
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Re: Local Township regs

Post by RelaxandRejuvenate » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:42 am

What state are you in?
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Re: Local Township regs

Post by moose_goose » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:31 am

JasonE wrote:
squash_blsm wrote:yes, it does make me shake my head.
It's a shame that this got passed - there is a massage school located in this town.
The owners have worked diligently for years in getting state licensing passed.
So this local ordinance, passed AFTER state licensing, seems misguided at best.
I am NOT going to call myself a "massagist" even though it is a legitimate word.
It's bad enough that I will have to display my "massagist" permit!

Oh - and ordinance states that buttocks may not be exposed or touched at all in any manner (i gotta stop reading this...it's making me crazy).
If you have a state massage license, it may exempt you from the local ordinances. Check your state law and with your state massage board for guidance. It can't exempt you from zoning requirements, but otherwise you might be able to ignore large portions of the local ordinance. Before deciding on your course of action, investigate carefully and get some legal counsel if you can.

What Jason said!
We've got a "massage practitioner" city thing, but since I'm state licensed, that trumps the city stuff.

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Re: Local Township regs

Post by squash_blsm » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:56 am

Nope....
I went to the township directly.
They don't CARE about the state license - the ordinance was passed after licensing went into effect.
I took care of the problem by renting in a different town.
I don't want to be there that bad to have to fight it.
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Re: Local Township regs

Post by pueppi » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:14 am

squash_blsm wrote:Nope....
I went to the township directly.
They don't CARE about the state license - the ordinance was passed after licensing went into effect.
I took care of the problem by renting in a different town.
I don't want to be there that bad to have to fight it.
Hope you'll take time to write about it somewhere and how things are going with encouraging established clients to come on over to the new town you are in.
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